2021 KTM 1290 Super Adventure S - A two wheeled Swiss Army Knife?

Pubblicato il 20 giu 2021
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The 2021 KTM 1290 Super Adventure S performance has been concentrated on a lot in reviews. It goes without saying that a 1300cc 160hp motor strapped to a KTM chassis is going to be quick. It also stuffed with electronics and gizmos, but how does it stack up as an all-around do everything motorcycle? In this video, I aim to find out if the KTM 'Ready to Race' DNA offers a lot more than just bonkers performance.

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Intro - 00:00
Engine - 00:47
Ergonomics 01:47
TFT Display \u0026 Controls - 02:50
Electronic Suspension - 06:14
Handling - 06:42
Seat Height - 07:51
Screen - 08:36
Active Cruise Control - 09:23
In the Twisties with Anti-Dive - 11:29
Quick Shifter - 13:45
Conclusion \u0026 Price - 15:27

Views from the Man Cave
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  • ramrk2011

    ramrk2011

    11 ore fa

    Great review! Great videography! Looks like KTM is the clear winner in this segment (near 1200 cc) at present!
    - Ram

  • fjrboy

    fjrboy

    7 giorni fa

    Good review!...I have the 2019 model and my arse was on fire yesterday in 29'c of heat (UK)....any improvement in that department?

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      7 giorni fa

      Apparently the new bodywork helps to dissipate the heat a bit better. When compared to my old 1050 it’s soo much better, and I can’t say that I really noticed the heat that much

  • Joe Doe

    Joe Doe

    11 giorni fa

    poor mpg, that says all

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      11 giorni fa

      Fuel consumption hovvered around the 50mpg mark over the time i had it. Not bad for a 160hp 1300cc engine?

  • Big Red

    Big Red

    12 giorni fa

    I have heard a fewcreviews of this bike before, but none of those suoerlatives were used. Instead, l heard "unreliable electronics", and "why does it still have such a hard seat" and finally "why do they persist in making such an ugly bike".

  • Josh Nolan

    Josh Nolan

    14 giorni fa

    Not sure if it was me but felt the majority of the video a little under exposed, but great production, loved the conclusion and overall composition. Great review!

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      11 giorni fa

      Stanley Kubrick I am not. But also the GoPro doesnt have that great a dynamic range. Glad you liked the review

  • 69chickenstew

    69chickenstew

    14 giorni fa

    Have they iron out all old gremlins the first model had ? I had mine 2 years & had nothing but problems & KTM didn't want to know until I went to MCN & slated them for bad communication ,warranty cover none genuine parts fitted etc etc

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      14 giorni fa

      No idea, I only had the bike for two weeks, but I didn’t have any issues in that time. I think the reliability has improved across the range, but it’s a hard label for any brand to shake off

  • vikingbags

    vikingbags

    21 giorno fa

    Once again, amazing work on the video review! Keep up the good work!

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      21 giorno fa

      Cheers Guys

  • David Colin

    David Colin

    23 giorni fa

    I was originally convinced that I wanted the SD1290GT, primarily because I'm only interested in a V twin, but also because I have no intention of going off road.
    However, I will certainly take one of these for a test ride just to see whether it is more capable as a tourer than the GT. I'm 6'0" tall, so height shouldn't be a problem. It'll be interesting to see the differences. I know you've tried the GT, as a pure sports tourer, which would you go for?

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      21 giorno fa

      @Views from the Man Cave Yeah, I got that impression. However, practicality really isn't my reason for riding. Obviously, I want it for touring, but I also want it for outright fun. I'll have at least 1, probably2 bikes for riding off road (one is a classic, full on factory-engined bike from 1995, the other will be a much more recent enduro, possibly new, possibly a bit older, still to decide). What I really want is something capable of touring on, getting to the other end, pitching camp and then blasting off for a bit of (possibly) light scratching. It's the latter that I have my doubts about. OTOH, a V twin is always fun, whether scratching or not, I think it'll all come down to the test ride.

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      21 giorno fa

      If I was going to choose one, I’d probably go for the Super Adventure, I think it’s all round just a more practical bike

  • ceiling fan

    ceiling fan

    24 giorni fa

    I hope Harley does to the Europeans what most European manufacturers do to us.
    Here Americans, you can have your choice of this one color.
    Or better yet do what Ducati did: yeah we have this new tech on the multistrada but you can't use it because it hasn't been safety certified in your country. So you can buy the the bike but not use this stuff. When it is certified, just take it to Ducati and we will unlock it for almost a grand. Sorry about that.

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      23 giorni fa

      Don't blame Ducati for the excessive control of the USA. Apparently, your politicians don't have anything better to do than create ridiculous hurdles... oh, they do? But they don't do anything about the s**tload of problems? Sorry, I'm finding it very difficult to summon much sympathy. And I BET there are people who can release the beast. There always are...

  • Rey Arisman

    Rey Arisman

    27 giorni fa

    How is the suspension comfort compared to the gs? Can it be set to be just as soft as the gs

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      27 giorni fa

      I've not ridden a GS for a while, but my first impression was that this was a bit 'taughter' but in comfort mode its very compliant

  • JJ RIDER 67

    JJ RIDER 67

    27 giorni fa

    It's clear you're very impressed with the electronic gadgetry on the bike, of course it would be even easier if the heated grips just had an on/off switch and a temp setting so you could pay proper attention to the road ahead instead of p*ssing about with your settings - just another case of unnecessary gadgetry on modern bikes, designed to make the novice and inexperienced feel like instant Moto GP pilots when really they're nothing near that good..

  • NomadBikerTours

    NomadBikerTours

    28 giorni fa

    I just think it's ugly ... 😕.. I prefer the Harley !!! Work that one out ..

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      23 giorni fa

      The problem with the Harley is that the dealers, in Spain at least, are beyond appalling. If you don't go into the dealership ON a H-D, you can literally spend an hour waiting to be served. I know, I tried it once. I can't think of a single time that I've had a nice experience in an H-D dealer's.

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      27 giorni fa

      I like the Harley too, I've never found KTM's particularly nice to look at, although the old 990 Adventure had some rugged good looks.

  • Walter Wilkins

    Walter Wilkins

    29 giorni fa

    Most functionality problems, from phone to fridge, haven’t been mechanical - it’s been electronic. The fact that consumers can’t extend warranty on electronics alone doesn’t bode well for confidence in the product.

  • Ray Collington

    Ray Collington

    Mese fa

    Has this model resolved the need to live close to a dealer and be prepared to have the bike connected to KTM for regular updates and bug fixes. I wish I could trust KTM reliability, I just feel it would be a Bret Tkacs experience. Thanks Tony

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      23 giorni fa

      @Views from the Man Cave I think it's probably a bit of both. I have a friend who's on his second SD R and never had even the slightest problem. But I also know of others who have had lots. It does seem that KTM do eventually get stuff sorted (unlike some I can think of) and it also seems that some other manufacturers can avoid getting a bad rep because of their nationality. I have heard all sorts of problems with BMWs over the past years (pretty much since the launch of their "proper" sports bike range (RRs and the like) and not only related to the 4 cyl. machines, but suggest that BMW have a reliability problem and you'll have rioting in the streets. Similarly, the big 4, but everybody is ready and willing to join the chorus with KTM, Aprilia and Ducati. Funnily enough, Triumph in Spain have reputation that is possibly worse than KTM's, yet in the UK they're poles apart.

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      I think sometimes they get a RAW deal and its hard to shake of a reputation. I have no brand loyalty and I’m not one of those types that defend a brand without any reason. I own a 2019 790 Adventure with 17k miles on it and have had no issues other thats a factory recall. My friend has a 2014 690 Duke R with 25k on the clock and he’s not had any issues either. But I did have a 1050 which had a voltage drop issue that was never rectified. So I’m just curious if its a bad reputation sticking to the brand or a genuine problem?

    • Ray Collington

      Ray Collington

      Mese fa

      @Views from the Man Cave I like the look of KTM bikes but their reliability reputation always puts me off. There are so many tales of defects from people I know and social media, I am reluctant to give them my money. I generally hold Austrian engineering in high regard. A new dealer is opening a mile from where I live and it's not in a farm! I will be taking a look at this bike. Are you confident it will be reliable?

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      Was that the case with the previous 1290 SA? What problems did you have with yours?

  • Tim Rodie Rides Motorbikes

    Tim Rodie Rides Motorbikes

    Mese fa

    Great video! Trying to work out whether to get one of these or its even madder naked brother…

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      27 giorni fa

      Thanks, this is deffo more practical of course

  • Dale Hawkes

    Dale Hawkes

    Mese fa

    Great review TONY it was a very close call but today I’ve ordered a GSA just fitted me better as I’m a big lump but was extremely impressed with it ,fun rides alone I would have definitely gone with the KTM 👍👍👍👍

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      Congrats, lovely bike and may you have very many happy miles on it! Ride Safe

  • Verdon Rocks Photography

    Verdon Rocks Photography

    Mese fa

    excellent review, sweet machine, cheers V!

  • Flaming Hedgehog

    Flaming Hedgehog

    Mese fa

    I fail to see (or appreciate) why bikes have become so expensive. Now comparatively priced with small cars where you get more cylinders, more seats, a roof, doors, aircon, power windows, etc. What is it that makes bike manufacture sooooo expensive?
    Bikes cost five times more in dollars per kilogram (or pounds per pound for you UK peeps). I feel like I'm getting stitched up.

    • Flaming Hedgehog

      Flaming Hedgehog

      23 giorni fa

      @David Colin "...badly maintained pogo stick.." 🤣 Had some of those too!

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      23 giorni fa

      @Flaming Hedgehog It was ever thus. I would also point out that 120-150bhp is certainly more than enough. Back in the 70s, you wouldn't have found a tyre that would have been comfortable with modern power, let alone a chassis. In spite of all the BS about the 70s/80s biking scene, the bikes were lardy, handled like a badly maintained pogo stick and could barely hit 100bhp. Modern bikes, and I'm including pretty much anything from 1995 onwards, are just spectacular in comparison. The fact that you've got GS1150+ that produce more power than the original Fireblade pretty much says it all. As I said, you really don't need to be Mr Moneybags to be able to have a fast bike these days, and only a very small %age of those that do have these bikes can actually take advantage of their abilities.

    • Flaming Hedgehog

      Flaming Hedgehog

      23 giorni fa

      @David Colin "...The peak is always far more expensive that the valley..." Nice one. Liking that. Agree with your sentiment and points however I feel this peak is a bit more 'Everest' than most high ground. I've had two and four wheels all my life and while cars have gotten faster and cheaper (in relation to the average annual wage) many bikes have gone the other way. This is what Duke are charging and this is what people are willing to pay and that's all good in the commercial world. I'm just questioning value for money in the comparison is all. Sure Wagyu steak cost more than burger mince but even a 1290 Super Adventure S made entirely of Australian Wagyu will be a third the price. There is a good profit to be had at the top of the bike tree and I don't begrudge them that but I simply refuse to pay that price per kilo for what I get on my motoring plate. This 1290 isn't an exotic GP super missile, it's a free range chook chaser that lays very expensive eggs. I'll simplify the original question... At $30,000 AUD here in Oz (£16,000 GBP) where did all the money go exactly? There aren't a lot of parts on a bike so the ones it does have that aren't plastic must be some very exotic stuff.

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      23 giorni fa

      The peak is always far more expensive that the valley. There have always been cheap bikes and cheap cars, expensive bikes and expensive cars. Back when I started riding bikes, in the 70s, the top bikes were, comparatively, equally more expensive than the cheapest car, but whereas a top bike then would have been lucky to pump out 80bhp (Laverda Jota) or so, and a cheap car would be producing 55bhp (Ford Fiesta), modern top bikes are producing 150-220bhp or more and cost as much as 2.5x the price of a Dacia Sandero with 100bhp. Yet, if you compare performance, there really is nothing to compare. The fact is that there is no car on the planet, not even at €3,5m, that can match the acceleration of one of these two wheeled missiles. The point is not to think that a motorbike is a substitute/alternative to a car, but something entirely different. I'm not saying that a bike can't do much of what a car can do, after all, I managed to live as an adult for 20 years without having a car, but that they do two very different things. Another way to look at it is; how often do you drive a car with literally only the driver in it? Even in places where there are significant advantages to car sharing, the number only just scrapes into the majority, sometimes. So most car drivers are dragging around a huge lump of metal, getting stuck in traffic etc just for those (rare) occasions when they may need to be able to carry at least 2 more people.

  • Rich Edwards

    Rich Edwards

    Mese fa

    First class review, as always 👍

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      Cheers Rich

  • James Whelan

    James Whelan

    Mese fa

    It's a lovely bike. But there just to big like the 1250GS. I have moved away from these monsters having been there ect. My 850GS is a nice balance of power and size and really even that could go on a diet.

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      27 giorni fa

      This is not as big as you'd imagine

  • Iam_ mono

    Iam_ mono

    Mese fa

    I saw one yesterday, the Exhaust is Massive!! Looked half decent in press pictures, but the thing is huge.

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      27 giorni fa

      Yep, euro 5 compliance unfortunately!

  • Andrew Booth

    Andrew Booth

    Mese fa

    Great review Tony. What’s the jacket you are wearing in this review.

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      Cheers Andrew, its a Knox Urbane Pro Utility - tinyurl.com/Knoxarmour

  • K T

    K T

    Mese fa

    I would choose the KTM over Harley Davidson Pan America. If I wanted fuel economy as a priority I would choose the Honda African Twin.

  • Greg Guille

    Greg Guille

    Mese fa

    Great review, one for the "grown ups" in the audience!

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      Thanks Greg

  • Darren

    Darren

    Mese fa

    Nice review as always Tony. For me reliability is still a massive concern, everyone I know who has brought one has issues...mostly electronic. Be nice if it didn't have a chain for touring riders as well. Power and weight look good though 👍

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      23 giorni fa

      I believe the SA can be ordered with a Scottoiler fitted. Having used Scottoilers in the past, I'd not hesitate. In my experience, a Scottoiler simply eliminates almost all the advantages of a shaft and, seeing as the ONLY time I've ever been stuck by the side of the road was when the shaft chewed its teeth off, even the advantages of shaft drive seem to be overstated. FZR !000 without Scottoiler = constant chain adjustments, dead chain in 8000m FZR 1000 with Scottoiler = occasional top up of oil, 1 adjustment in 22,000m Admittedly, the Scottoiler leaves your rear wheel covered in fling-off, but I'd rather have that than shaft reaction, in with a paralever.

    • Darren

      Darren

      Mese fa

      @Views from the Man Cave 2019 model Tony....been back several times including a new TFT display

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      Cheers Darren, is that the new 1290 SA or the older model? just interested

  • Adrian

    Adrian

    Mese fa

    why would anybody in their right mind by KTM

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      22 giorni fa

      @Adrian Nope. I rode bikes exclusively for 20+ years, including several stints doing long distance despatch riding on everything from a CB250RS to an EXUP. But you would know that I'm a troll or a prick because you, of course, know my history. The fact that I have the bike that Nani Roma won his first Baja Aragon on also clearly demonstrates that I'm both a troll and a prick, as does the fact that I obviously know nothing about how phenomenally unreliable KTMs are. BTW, why are you being so unpleasant? It seems that my earlier guesses hit the mark, huh? It would also seem quite evident who the troll is here. Byeeee

    • Adrian

      Adrian

      22 giorni fa

      @David Colin your just delusional or a troll your pick

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      22 giorni fa

      @Adrian Yeah, of course, I'm the clown. At least this "clown" doesn't make ridiculous claims about an entire factory's output based on the guy down the chip shop. I've been riding for 41 years, probably put more miles under the wheels of my bikes than you would do in ten lifetimes but yeah, you're right, I'm a clown. Just one question; Why am I a clown? Because I don't agree with you? Or do you have some other evidence for this, clearly measured, response?

    • Adrian

      Adrian

      23 giorni fa

      @David Colin clown

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      23 giorni fa

      @Adrian I could equally the same for other makers. And I could could equally give you other riders who've ridden KTMs for years, day in, day out and not had any problems. I actually have a friend who has put something in the region of 100,000 miles on a KTM and literally only done routine maintenance. Just because you're incapable of recognising these things doesn't make your view the only truth. But claiming that all are alike just makes you into a waste of space. BTW, I could equally point out major flaws in models made by the big 4, but you don't want to hear about that do you? You're perfectly happy in your bigoted opinions. That's fine by me, but just like S**t, it's best not to spread them around because people will get wise to you. BTW, I've also had 3 KTMs over the past 15 years and not had a single problem with them. Beg your pardon, I had the stator go on my 24 year old factory competition KTM engine. Such terrible reliability.

  • Dan’l 56

    Dan’l 56

    Mese fa

    Excellent review Tony 👍! You did a fine job of telling us what the bike is like to ride and use in a real world environment. So many of the reviews have just been “Look how stonking fast this things is !”🤨. (As if we wouldn’t expect that from a Super Duke powered Adventure bike 🙄.) keep up the good work 😃👍

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      Thanks Mate, thats what I was trying to achieve

  • dungbeetle

    dungbeetle

    Mese fa

    Nice review, Tony. Thanks.
    Although a rarity, it's good to know that manufacturers can make a screen that works well at higher speeds.

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      Thanks, yes thats why I thought i'd mention it

  • Pale Rider

    Pale Rider

    Mese fa

    Good review ... thank you. There are so many very good bikes in this genre these days. Big problem is that they are far too complicated and far too expensive. They are becoming unrealistic for most budgets. Manufacturers are appealing to the wrong end of the market in my view. Motorcycles for most are a second mode of transport, and asking north of £15000 pounds is getting out of hand. People who say that this sort of money isn’t that bad and you get what you pay for... need to take a long look at themselves in the mirror and stay off the strong cheese.
    They need to offer more affordable bikes , for the average budget and getting younger guys and girls into motorcycling. The only people who can really afford new bikes like the GS, KTM, AT etc, are either retired with a generous lump sum to dip into, or have the income to afford PCP payments. This is only my opinion, so please don’t reply with abuse.

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      23 giorni fa

      @Mike Hamilton Thanks, Mike. I am in the very fortunate position of living in Spain and, although we do have speed cameras (and now, even the occasional Average Speed Camera) most of the roads near where I live, are not affected by them. I also live on one of the most popular routes for bikers coming out of Barcelona "for the ride" at the w/e. That means a very heavy police presence at the w/e, but not the rest of the time. Some parts of Spain are even better:). I believe that Castellón only has 1 speed camera in the entire region! I also tend to tour Europe by bike when I can, and my experience is that the UK has the most strictly controlled speed limits of any country. That, combined with the rubbish roads you have these days might even make me think about my biking future in the UK. But I'm not in the UK, so it really isn't a problem. And our roads are just soooooo much better as well as more fun:).

    • Mike Hamilton

      Mike Hamilton

      23 giorni fa

      @David Colin Absolutely spot on! Not only that, but our roads are getting worse through lack of maintenance and are subject to stricter speed limits. Over the past 10-15 years, some of the finest roads have had speed limits reduced from 60mph to 40mph or have had average speed cameras installed. Bikes producing more than, say, 120bhp are redundant.

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      23 giorni fa

      Like it or not, the world's motorcycling population is ageing, which is just another reason why the high power sports bikes no longer sell as well as they used to. And that is one reason why these big bikes are so much money; older people tend to have more cash to splash on their passions. But the fact is that these bikes are just the very pinnacle of automotive two wheelers. Yes, a 2021 SA-S is a better bike than the 2019 model which, in turn, is better than the 2014 or whatever. But these have been in competition with the GS1150, 1200 and 1250 all that time, and both models have been selling in quantities that make the other manufacturers envious. But that also means that there are enormous numbers of GSs and SAs, as well as plenty of others, like Africa Twins, Super Ténerés out there. And, although they may not be as mind blowing CAPABLE as these pinnacle bikes, you should NEVER lose sight of the fact that even the very worst of these bikes is just stupidly FUN to ride. It is really easy to get caught up in the oneupmanship and envy of the latest, best, fastest etc. But above all, even the lowliest bike is still hugely fun to ride. Yeah, if you've got the money, knock yourself out, but if you haven't, there are still plenty of hugely capable FUN bikes out there that will set you back a lot less than this pinnacle of achievement. Finally, this may be the pinnacle of achievement, but very few riders ever get close to getting the best out of their bikes. Better to hone your skills on something that may be less capable, but just as much fun.

    • Keith Hayward

      Keith Hayward

      26 giorni fa

      Fair comments for sure on price. I think that the pricing is all part of the strategy to feed the Pre Owned Market. Buying this bike 2 yrs from now will bring price down and the economic machine just keeps going.

    • Mike Hamilton

      Mike Hamilton

      Mese fa

      I would love to have a KTM Adventure S and yes, I can afford one but I think I will probably keep my Yamaha Super Tenere 1200 for a while yet. The stories about electrical gremlins with KTM, Ducati and BMW have scared me off I'm afraid.

  • Tim Firth

    Tim Firth

    Mese fa

    Put nearly 3000 miles on a new 2021 super adventure s. Just gone back to a GS as it’s just way more refined in all respects. The KTM pegs are too high, the seat is very uncomfortable and broken in design in that you can’t put it in the high position ( to give more leg room) as it just falls back. The switch gear is worse than the previous version and you can’t be sure when you have switched em on or cancelled em. The mirrors vibrate and with a top box the shoddy steering damper means head shake like you wouldn’t believe. On the positive It’s fast , handles great and it’s pure fun to ride fast......but it’s not a better tourer or all round bike than the GS for sure....not even close👍

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      23 giorni fa

      @Derek Cumbers Yeah, it seems that BMW's QC has been going south for some time.

    • Derek Cumbers

      Derek Cumbers

      Mese fa

      I too am 2,600 miles in on my new first ever KTM 1290s 2021/ Coming from 11 GS, GSA, and 1250 bikes on the bounce. Then the Ducati V4s MS then the NEW KTM I agree the BMW is more refined BUT! the KTM is far more agile even just to push in and out of the garage, the fun factor is back and the seat is easy fix i have mine set in high all the time bin off the rubber inserts from pegs extend the gear lever out and its great. On 360mile ride other day to Wales I was pleased with the KTM. The build quality on the BMW is going South fast and just look at the plastics on KTM far superior wash the bike remove the seats see the under saddle is dry look at BMW after doing same the bike is filthy! and very wet.So until BMW get some quilty back into there build and a lighter bike instead of all the weight Ill stay here. The day BMW get rid of tele-lever is the day the GS will die.Each to there own.

    • Tim Firth

      Tim Firth

      Mese fa

      @Views from the Man Cave I just think it’s poor how you can’t have the seat in the high position due to the manufacturing/ design fault...affects riding comfort. KTM have pulled all the ergo/ heated seat options from sale whilst they try and fix it the design..it’s so cheap and flexible when compared to the BMW seats...I do consecutive 150 to 200 mile days when touring and I was more comfy on the Superduke GT than the new SA with the seat on the low position 😳👍

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      Thanks for the info. I dont think you can ever call a KTM 'refined' ;) but this isnt too bad. I thought the seat was pretty good, but of course thats subjective based on the rider. The switch gear is great imo, but I did think that the head angle was pretty slack at 65 degrees

  • Nigel Tabb

    Nigel Tabb

    Mese fa

    I really like your perspective on bike reviews Tony
    I'm looking for a new bike and being a bit of a BMW man have considered the GS of course.
    But you're right, these big ADV's are in fact touring bikes and as such, this KTM is now on the radar
    And is a lot better priced than the BM too.
    Jim Aim may be having a visit soon I think.

    • David Colin

      David Colin

      23 giorni fa

      @Tim Firth Hang onto your money for a year and you'll probably find that KTM will throw in the pack and luggage for free.

    • Nigel Tabb

      Nigel Tabb

      Mese fa

      @Tim Firth Fair call - still a decent price however once you add luggage it starts getting up there. I'm not a massive fan of metal enduro style luggage and tend to use soft bags but a top box is maybe useful. Plenty to think about for sure.

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      Cheers Nigel, if you head into Jim Aim's for a test ride, tell Alastair I sent you ;)

    • Tim Firth

      Tim Firth

      Mese fa

      Don’t forget the electronics pack is £1100 ...making the price £16,100 ...if comparing to the GS TE for example👍

  • B0M0A0K

    B0M0A0K

    Mese fa

    What's the mesh jacket you are wearing on this review please? - Oh, forget it, this is the Knox Urbane Pro Utility you reviewed recently.

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      It's the ......oh ;)

  • Andrew Ewan

    Andrew Ewan

    Mese fa

    REAL-WORLD review ....... thanks for sharing ...stay safe

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

      Mese fa

      Thanks Andrew

  • Terry Daniel

    Terry Daniel

    Mese fa

    Which one would you cry BMW or a KTM

    • Tim Firth

      Tim Firth

      Mese fa

      Had both...and covered nearly 3000 miles on the new KTM. GS defo between the two..no question ...but there are some incredible deals to be had on Africa Twins so worth checking out...I would look at the AT purely for the DCT tbh as I have a dodgy left wrist and hand due to a bad break.👍

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

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      If i had to choose between just those, I’d have the KTM. If I was spending my own money on a ‘big’ adventure bike I’d take the Africa Twin DCT

  • nicholas chai

    nicholas chai

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    Looking forward on your thoughts for the new tracer 9 gt

    • nicholas chai

      nicholas chai

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      @Views from the Man Cave I’m sure u can…😉😉😉

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

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      Would be great if I could get hold of one!

  • Grumpy Old Git

    Grumpy Old Git

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    Great review, first one iv'e seen where the bike hasn't had an electronics issue!!!!!

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

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      Maybe I was just lucky? but no issues in the 2 weeks I had it

  • 1990

    1990

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    I can't help thinking my old 950 Adventure looked so much better than this. A lot lighter as well.

    • 1990

      1990

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      @Views from the Man Cave I agree.

    • Views from the Man Cave

      Views from the Man Cave

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      I think the 950/990 is still the best looking KTM adventure bike